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Ida Emma Guenther

10/17/2025

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Ida Emma Guenther (1853-1904)
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Buried in City/Loosley Cemetery, exact location unknown.

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According to the federal census of 1900, Ida (maiden name unknown) was born in Denmark, April 1853, and arrived in the United States in 1865. One can only guess what contributed to her fondness for conflict and drink.
 
Mrs. Ida Bailey first came to the attention of Phoenix authorities when she was charged along with Fred Steffans with “mutually maligning each other and the employment of language which is not admissible to mail bags” on April 2, 1893. 
 
Shortly after that incident, Ida married Joseph P. Murray, a blacksmith, on April 23, 1893. Witnesses to the marriage were Frankie Hill and H.C. King. Frankie Hill (aka Minnie Drum) was a known madam in Phoenix. At the time of their marriage, Ida was 40 years old and Joseph was 57 years old. 
 
The Arizona Republican paper reported that the newlyweds were off to the World’s Fair on honeymoon. However, the romance—if romance it was—didn’t last long. Barely two months later, Ida was living in a crib in the alley behind the Central Hotel in Phoenix. That area was known for all sorts of criminal behavior, the main problem being prostitution. 
 
On June 23, 1893, one of Ida’s neighbors, Annie Marchand, complained to Night Marshal Blankenship that Ida had tried to fire a shot at her with a Smith & Wesson handgun. Ida was arrested and fined. “Inspired by whiskey and morphine," Ida retaliated by charging that Annie had been calling her names.
 
On July 1, 1893, a fire swept through the residences in the alley behind the Central Hotel. The flames were so intense that they threatened the hotel. It was learned that Ida had moved all her belongings out of her shack prior to the fire, but Annie lost everything. Although Ida had openly boasted that she “was going to make it hot” for Annie Marchand, there was no direct evidence linking her to the fire.
 
Ida Murray next married Herman Guenther, a gunsmith, on September 18, 1899 in Phoenix. Herman had been born in Germany in December 1835 and arrived in the United States in 1871. He had been previously married and had two sons who were in California.  
 
The Guenthers invited Nicholas Brecht and his wife Maria Gilmore to their home on July 11, 1899 for a drink. The affair became a two-hour drinking contest before everyone said their goodbyes. Sometime later, Maria realized her purse was missing and returned to the Guenthers. A fight broke out and police were called. All were brought to court and fined.
 
Ida died in Phoenix on May 5, 1904 at the age of 50 and was buried in Loosley Cemetery. Herman died on August 10, 1904 at the age of 69. He had attempted to walk to the cemetery where his wife was buried and lost his way. He was found unconscious and brought back to his residence where he later died. He is also buried in Loosley Cemetery. Neither Guenther has a grave marker.
 
© Copyright 2018 by Patricia Gault. Last revised 9 May 2018.

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